FROM: Fiona Kalk
TMNP spokesperson


Issue 1: The harvesting of the Tokai and Cecilia Commercial Pine Plantations (the Cecilia Plantation includes Constantia Nek).

The commercial harvesting rights for the timber were put out to tender by DWAF who owns the land and were won by MTO (PTY) Ltd. So they are the agency doing the harvesting and profiting from the business.

MTO will only be harvesting the pine trees near Constantia Nek parking lot if they can find a market for pinus canariensis - which is apparently a poor quality wood and difficult to market.

Once compartments have been clear felled they become a part of the Table Mountain National Park for rehabilitation purposes. TMNP also administers MTO's lease on behalf of DWAF.

The total harvesting period is 20 years. However we are well aware of the recreational value of the plantations and are busy compiling the terms of reference for a public participation process where all I&A parties will be involved representing a diversity of interests such as biodiversity conservators, botanists, foresters, dog walkers, horse riders, mountain bikers, picnickers, friends groups etc....

We hope that broad-based consultation will result in us meeting the needs of the various user-groups while enabling us to rehabilitate the most important conservation worthy areas. This consultation process will start later this year.

TMNP has already consulted with SAHRA on this issue and has their agreement that as these are commercial plantations that have been harvested on a cyclical basis for decades they are not regarded as official heritage sites - with the exception of the Arboretum in Tokai which will not be harvested at all.

Issue 2.
Removal of specific trees in Deer Park and the Glen: Certain trees have been damaged by the recent fires and there is a danger of them falling over - posing a safety hazard - in fact a couple have already toppled.

In conjunction with the South African Heritage Resources Agency, TMNP has identified trees that were mortally damaged in the fires. This means that they have become structurally unsound. These trees will be felled over the next few weeks - in total around 60 give or take a few.

Please note that in these areas ONLY trees mortally damaged by fire will be felled at this time and this is an entirely separate issue to the commercial harvesting of the Tokai and Cecilia plantations.

Issue 3:
Far from being destroyers of forests in fact TMNP has a completely amazing forest rehabilitation programme which involves collecting seeds from the indigenous afromontane forests (to maintain genetic integrity), germinating them and raising them in our Newlands Nursery and, once they are old enough, replanting them in gaps in the forest.

Over 30 000 seedlings have been planted in around 3 years. This has been piloted the Newlands Forest but has been so successful that we are rolling it out through the rest of the peninsula in coming years. Should you be interested in this project please let me know and I can arrange for you to visit the various sites and meet the people involved.

We are dedicated to the protection, maintenance and, where appropriate, expansion of the precious pockets of remaining indigenous afromontane forest that are scattered throughout the TMNP.
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Dotwod
 

South Africa
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Posted - 12 Mar 2006 :  20:08:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
While we can all understand that keeping indigenous vegetation in our area is desirable, this does not mean that we have to destroy everything alien. In the case of trees, we should be grateful that we have them. Removing them will not only completely change the appearance of our beautiful city, but it will also bring about serious changes in the eco-climate of the region.
We should also think of the wildlife that will be affected by these changes. The trees are home to a wide variety of birds, butterflies, etc. All of these will be lost.
Recently, a farmer in our area removed a small pine forest just outside our town. We have lost all the birds that lived in these trees and we have been left with an ugly barren patch. Gone is the delicious shade that offered respite from the summer heat and a favourite walk is no more.
We should not throw the baby out with the bath water in our desire to be "water-wise" and ecologically correct. Now we have to be sensible and realize that the benefits that Cape Town forests contribute visually, climatically and ecologically, are too valuable to sacrifice.
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Treebeard
 

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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 :  20:36:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am also VERY UNHAPPY about the Table Mountain Chain forestry programme. TMNP's reply helps to soften the blow but the pain of seeing the trees come down is going to be excruciating for those who enjoy the forests. It is going to take decades to replace these trees. Could the afromontane trees not be planted in the forests now alongside the Pines and Gums untill the reach maturity and then remove the alien trees??
I really dont see why this region of alien trees can not be kept and managed as it always has been it only occupies 2-4% of the land ?
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Treebeard
 

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Posted - 03 Jul 2006 :  17:44:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A short note about planting amongst the Pine. Seedlings would only be able to be planted in cleared areas. Perhaps some of the pines could be left to provide the new trees with a little shade our summers are long and hot.
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mark
 

South Africa
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 :  00:00:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These forests are a heritage not a problem plant to be got rid of.
Table mountain should really be A PARK FOR ALL FOREVER....NOT FOR SOME ...SOMETIMES...Some of us love trees and forests...even if its an import...

I cannot imagine cape town without the forests.
What a tragedy that the public have been kept in the dark with no say at all...and the forests have been quetly whittled away bit by bit with large tree patches here and there.

One only has to do the pipe track now on an average summers day where most of the huge old pine trees have been removed to feel the ruthless heat without any shade points to know how harsh things can be without a single tree. When we are putting on UV creams with protection factor 100 in a few years well wish we had some foreigner trees left. And also when the crowds jam pack the tiny slithers of indigenous forest well wish we had some pine to buffer the load....


See the site www.coolforest.org.za
Its a mad new botanical ethnic cleansing fanaticism...deers, Thars, Pine...

Sure Wattle and port Jackson or a severe problem (maybe not for those using the stuff as firewood in the freezing cold).

we need every bit of forest that we have.
By the way for those who argue of the word forest or Plantation...

Here from the dictionary
Plantation = An estate where cash crops are grown on a large scale (especially in tropical areas)...Doesnt this just reek of colonialism and the old American west!
Forest = trees and other plants in a large densely wooded area

But the problem here should not be drawn away into the realm semantics...

The future for many of us who dont have trees in our garden will be very grim without the FORESTS.


 
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Ecoman
 

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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 :  18:31:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

This is a sad situation. TMNP's reply should satisfy some forest lovers. In that it has been stated that trees will be replaced, eventually, and that there is to be a public forum in August. I would also urge people to go and see what can be done as damage control. It would seem pointless to challenge the fact that the pine plantations have to be harvested. The business agreements and contracts have been signed and the process is now well in hand. I have been monitoring the activities in the various plantations. I believe that the harvesting process may even be accelerating, could this situation be due to growing public awareness. I think that TMNP needs to polish up its rapidly tarnishing public image. I was sorry to hear someone reply to a question about the current tree harvesting.
" What!! Are they killing something again? " It would appear that the general public has not been well informed. I would like to ask TMNP why the public was not better informed about the Forestry Exit Strategy and its ramifications. A well-placed large advert in the newspapers would have led to better understanding of the issues involved.
 
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Treebeard
 

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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 :  20:46:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its sad that the issue of the removal of the pines and SHADE from the plantations has been posted on this forum for 7 months and so few people have bothered to debate the issue only 6 replies to 374 reads. What pathetic APATHY. A healthy debate helps people to learn!!!! Please people say something one way or the other.
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Hiker
 

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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  17:36:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I am sorry but this situation about the highhanded undemocratic removal of Table Mountains Plantations is nothing less than a disgraceful robbery. And has nothing to do with alien or indigenous vegetation.
In September 2005 there is an interview with Brett Myrdal TMNParks manager, on this website where he specifically states the willingness of his organization to incorporate the plantations into the park eco system to help contain the amount of recreational traffic and thus protect the more sensitive ecosystems on our mountain. What Changed?
If one reads the above letter put out by SANPARKS it should be clear that in actual fact it is the Dept of Water Affairs and Forestry/ SAFCOL and MTO who are to blame for this disaster.
SANPARKS is one of the lesser players actually taking over the wasteland that will be left, and hoping to rehabilitate the land. Rather like damage control.
The fact that there will be some sort of public participation forum in August 2006 will be a presentation on how the damage control should be carried out. The removal of the plantations at this stage is a nonnegotiable issue. The real reason for the stealing of the plantations regardless of public opinion or moratorium is BIG MONEY the price of timber has risen steadily and is now at a premium, no one has been given the opportunity to debate this issue even at parliamentary level. There have been no official press releases by DWAF explaining this. I wonder why so few members of the public are aware of this? Table Mountain belongs to the people of Cape Town this crime must be stopped. WAKE UP CAPETONIANS they will be removing the rock next.....
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Ecoman
 

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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  17:58:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes I agree with hiker I am angry and frustrated Nothing is being done by the people of CapeTown to stop this nonsense. Here is my answer to the letter by Fiona Kalk

Joe Publics answers and questions to a ridiculous situation involving the Table Mountain Plantations

ROM: Fiona Kalk
TMNP spokesperson

Issue 1: The harvesting of the Tokai and Cecilia Commercial Pine Plantations (the Cecilia Plantation includes Constantia Nek).

The commercial harvesting rights for the timber were put out to tender by DWAF who owns the land and were won by MTO (PTY) Ltd. So they are the agency doing the harvesting and profiting from the business.

Q Why was the public left out of this process? The Department of Water Affairs and Forestry is a Government department and this process should be transparent to the public. And the process should be followed by adequate press releases.

MTO will only be harvesting the pine trees near Constantia Nek parking lot if they can find a market for pinus canariensis - which is apparently a poor quality wood and difficult to market.

Gee please leave the parking lot trees we would like some shade for our cars.

Once compartments have been clear felled they become a part of the Table Mountain National Park for rehabilitation purposes. TMNP also administers MTO's lease on behalf of DWAF.

Rehabilitation!!! WOW!!!!

The total harvesting period is 20 years. However we are well aware of the recreational value of the plantations and are busy compiling the terms of reference for a public participation process where all I&A parties will be involved representing a diversity of interests such as biodiversity conservators, botanists, foresters, dog walkers, horse riders, mountain bikers, picnickers, friends groups etc....

Public participation?? After 6-7 months of tree removal?
Thanks guys I hope you will be providing lots of strong alcohol at this party because I don't really like being told that I must wait 60 years or more to see real forests again. And it is doubtful that there will ever be the same forest cover.
Cart before the horse thinking.

We hope that broad-based consultation will result in us meeting the needs of the various user-groups while enabling us to rehabilitate the most important conservation worthy areas. This consultation process will start later this year.

Yes LATER rather than sooner. The rest is gas!

TMNP has already consulted with SAHRA on this issue and has their agreement that as these are commercial plantations that have been harvested on a cyclical basis for decades they are not regarded as official heritage sites - with the exception of the Arboretum in Tokai which will not be harvested at all.

Thanks SAHRA I wonder how much you were paid to sell out on
Joe Public. Those plantations have been there for over 100 years
How are they not a heritage issue ?

Issue 2.
Removal of specific trees in Deer Park and the Glen: Certain trees have been damaged by the recent fires and there is a danger of them falling over - posing a safety hazard - in fact a couple have already toppled.

Good forestry practice. SO WHAT!!!!

In conjunction with the South African Heritage Resources Agency, TMNP has identified trees that were mortally damaged in the fires. This means that they have become structurally unsound. These trees will be felled over the next few weeks - in total around 60 give or take a few.

Good forestry practice. SO WHAT!!!!

Please note that in these areas ONLY trees mortally damaged by fire will be felled at this time and this is an entirely separate issue to the commercial harvesting of the Tokai and Cecilia plantations.

Ok get that

Issue 3:
Far from being destroyers of forests in fact TMNP has a completely amazing forest rehabilitation program which involves collecting seeds from the indigenous afromontane forests (to maintain genetic integrity), germinating them and raising them in our Newlands Nursery and, once they are old enough, replanting them in gaps in the forest.

I guess we will have to wait until August 2006 to find out exactly what all this means. All the while the trees are falling and our shade is going.

Over 30 000 seedlings have been planted in around 3 years. This has been piloted the Newlands Forest but has been so successful that we are rolling it out through the rest of the peninsula in coming years. Should you be interested in this project please let me know and I can arrange for you to visit the various sites and meet the people involved.

Will become interested but would like to have the logging process put on hold until a valid assessment is made.

We are dedicated to the protection, maintenance and, where appropriate, expansion of the precious pockets of remaining indigenous afromontane forest that are scattered throughout the TMNP.

Understood. We await the Public Participation forum.



 
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ReinhardS
 

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Posted - 15 Aug 2006 :  16:07:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit ReinhardS's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If the tree cutting continues at the present speed, the forest will be gone in 20 month, not 20 years ! I had a discussion with one of TMNP´s employees at the Open Day in Crysalis Academy.
He was absolutely not interested in mainataining the forest, he was interested in BIODIVERSITY and he feels more obligation to this "World Heritage" BS than to the needs of the people who pay his salary.
Fynbos is preventing erosion. Erosion is the removal of surface soil.

I can see only sand and rocks in Silvermine, but not in Cecilia forest. So when will the Fynbos produce soil ?

First I heard the extrmely smart argument the trees consume too much water, now it is biodiversity. Fact is, there is basically no forestry knowledge in the Western Cape. Forests in SA were always only exploited.

This what a forest expert has to say about both issues :

XI WORLD FORESTRY CONGRESS 1997
.... · Protection of water resources:
through its foliage, the craggy bark, and the abundant litter, trees and forests decrease the speed of water dispersion and favour slow but total infiltration of rain water; it is also to be noted the capacity of trees especially in dry areas to retain other precipitations such as mist that then can be collected and stored for use. The combination of these elements makes it possible that in apparently very arid environments an important amount of water is stored in the ground which can support the survival of trees and forests in often adverse conditions. Reducing the erosion, the forests also provide cleaning processes of natural water.

· Soil Protection: The forest canopy slows down the wind while its dense network of roots holds the soil in place; added to the buffering function of water flow as mentioned above, these characteristics protect against wind and water erosion, land movement (mass slides and falling rocks) and, under cold climates the risks of avalanches; with the combination of slower dispersion of water and its forcing down to phreatic and intermediary watertables, the forest exerts an important buffering effect that protect against flooding or severe river bank erosion; this latter function is fundamentally important. Many of these functions may, however, be impaired by inadequate or unsuitable management practices that allow inadvertent baring of forest soils or the existence of empty space in stands. This degradation, if unchecked, leads to deforestation which in turn leads to exacerbated run-off, leaching, destruction of soil structures, growing erosion and eventually desertification.

· Buffering local climate and reduction of gas emission impacts: Through the control of wind velocity and air flows, the forest influences local air circulation and may thus retain solid suspensions and gaseous elements; it can filter air masses and retain contaminants. The forest exerts a definite protective effect on neighbouring human settlements and especially crops. This capacity is used in the protection of inhabited areas especially when adjoining industrial areas and generally in urban forestry.

· Conservation of the natural habitat and biological diversity: The forest offers habitat to flora and fauna and, depending on its health, vitality and ultimately the way it is managed or protected, secures its own perpetuation through the functioning of the forest ecological processes; under natural circumstances the many successions of states evolve gradually towards an equilibrium, the climactic formations and associations that should be the optimum state depending on the climate and physiographic characteristics. In Europe, almost half of the ferns and flowering plants grow in the forest. Due to its size and its structural diversity, more animal species are found in the forest than in any other ecosystem. The capacity of forest to provide a suitable habitat to its various components also strongly depends on the composition, density and structure. Composition and structure strongly influence diversity while density may enhance protection. It is admitted that mixed species forests offer better habitat to wildlife than pure stands. This should be kept in mind when considering plantations or the management and silviculture of deeply modified forest ecosystems.

· Recreational and other social functions of the forests: Apart from these direct physical and biological protective functions, the forests in general have gained increasingly important recreational functions during the last five decades. In the vicinity of cities, tourism and health resorts have flourished benefiting from the forest environment; in forested areas of developed and developing countries alike, secondary residences are getting man back closer to the forests. The management of forest stands in these areas should then be more and more oriented towards objectives relating to the well-being of people, leisure and recreational services, protection of man from the effects of urban concentrations and industrialization. To better meet these needs, silviculture and forest management options should then be adopted by promoting attractive stands of various species and diversified structure. The forest should be provided with the adequate equipment, access and road network to build conviviality and reduce fire risks.

· Protecting the forests to protect from cultural erosion: While urban communities are striving to be closer to nature, at the same time evolution of the world and local forest economies may threaten other protective functions of natural forests in the developing world where forests have still maintained their cultural and religious functions. It is a challenge to the forestry of the 21st
century to also cater for these needs and maintain the cultural dimension of the protective functions of the forests.


Desertification

Deforestation induced by use of forest and tree resources has been aggravated by the degradation

of climatic conditions in many areas of the world. The most affected countries are those recognized by

the United Nations in Africa and to which priority has been given in the negotiation and the

implementation of the UN Convention to Combat Desertification and Drought. Tree planting in areas

threatened by desertification or the management of dry tree formations contribute to protecting the

soils and restoring the productive capacity of the land. The most spectacular initiatives in desertification

control are the activities to stabilize sand dunes. These have been implemented with remarkable

success in West Africa (Mauritania, Niger and Senegal), in North Africa (Morocco; Algeria, with the

huge initiative of the Green Belt that has shifted from massive plantations to an approach towards

integrated rural development; Tunisia and Libya), in Asia (India, Iran and Pakistan among others).

This is why the role of trees and forests to control desertification and mitigate the effects of drought

has been fully recognized and promoted in all the programmes being implemented to control

desertification. Tree planting goes now more and more with associated techniques including water harvesting, bundling and terracing, establishment of micro-catchments and moon crescents to collect all possible water resources.

The National Action Programmes to implement the UN Convention to combat desertification will

promote these actions in the larger national initiatives to combat land degradation, food insecurity

and poverty. Although tree planting has been heralded as the first and foremost tool for desertification

control, many social, economic and ecological considerations have re-evaluated its role and position.

The NAP processes have recognized this and involve a larger set of integrated activities. However,

seen as a potent multi-functional tool among others in land degradation control, tree, shrub and grass

planting can constitute a powerful complex when implementing water conservation and erosion control

measures, rehabilitation of exhausted croplands, diversification of village landscape to include trees

of various functions and services, stabilization and reclamation of lands. Forestry, agroforestry and

urban tree planting will then remain very high in the agenda of National Action Programmes to combat desertification.

http://www.fao.org/forestry/docrep/wfcxi/publi/PDF/V2E_T00.PDF
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Treebeard
 

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Posted - 18 Aug 2006 :  21:18:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here we have someone who can provide some good scientific arguements for retaining trees and adopting good forestry practice. Thanks Reinhard your support is valued.

Well folks TMNP's Public participation forum has come and gone. And guess what. They basicly told the people of Cape Town how they were going to manage the Table Mountain National Park. So it was rather a Public Information Forum. HOW ABOUT DEMOCRACY SANPARKS! Are you afraid to put your conservation management mandate to PUBLIC VOTE ????????? THE PEOPLE OF CAPE TOWN ARE NOT FINISHED WITH THIS ISSUE YET!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ecoman
 

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Posted - 23 Aug 2006 :  18:13:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Plantations issue is ongoing, and it seems that there are many more public vs TMNPark issues to follow. As they prepare to turn our urban park into a seriously restricted conservation bio-reserve. For the select few to perhaps enjoy. Particularly for those who don't enjoy the shade and majesty of the Plantation trees. Don't walk dogs, mountain bike, rock climb, horse ride and just about any other recreational activity. I must also say that while I agree with Hiker the blame for this unhappy situation falls at the door of the Dept of Water Affairs & SANParks. The forestry organizations involved are not to blame they are actually victims, as they are losing their business here in the Western Cape. After many years of wonderful forestry management and good public relations. I wonder if SANParks should really run the management of our mountain chain?????
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ReinhardS
 

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Posted - 27 Aug 2006 :  10:41:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit ReinhardS's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Ecoman[/i]
[br].... The forestry organizations involved are not to blame they are actually victims, as they are losing their business here in the Western Cape. After many years of wonderful forestry management and good public relations. I wonder if SANParks should really run the management of our mountain chain?????
 


Well, above is in general correct, there is not enough timber available in SA and some saw mills will have to close down or will go bankrupt. However, the company which was gifted with the lease contract I would not call a victim :
MTO Mountains To Oceans Ltd., a so called BEE company, is leasing 1000 ha of prime forest for a total sum of R45,000 per year ( this is an incredible waste of public property income ).
There are about 500 pine trees per ha, yielding a very conservative average of 3 cubic meters / tree, i.e. 1500 cubic meters of timber. MTO sells pine at an average price of R 2,500 / cubic meter.
One hectare is worth to MTO 2,500 x 1500 = R 3,750,000
1000 ha will then generate revenues of about R 3,750,000,000 (yes, these are billions ) At the present speed they will generate this revenue within 5 years. The lease of R45000 is shrinking with every clear-cut compartment.

Maybe the issue here is first of all money and Fynbos is just a Red Herring ?

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Atyllah
 

South Africa
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Posted - 05 Sep 2006 :  16:08:53  Show Profile  Visit Atyllah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was recently given a notice about a new TMNP initiative - to ban dog walking on Silvermine North and South and the Back Table. Where does the insanity stop?
At first I was willing to listen to what TMNP had to say, to give them the benefit of the doubt but frankly, I see little that encourages me to have any faith in their plans.
I recently took a walk in Tokai forest where a huge area has been cleared for the rehabilitation of fynbos - the area looks like hell. If that's what we can look forward to, I for one, don't want it.
Just where will TMNP stop. They will remove the pines - and in doing so will destroy the habitat of sparrowhawks, owls, porcupines, squirrels etc. As it is, they are already preparing to kill the buck that have long lived on the mountainside.
And what about the erosion that is already occuring on the Constantiaberg - an erosion that is all too obvious as one walks above the arboretum.
Where does this alien thing end? At what point do first, second or third grade South Africans also have to be eradicated?
Who are TMNP thinking about? Not the people, not the wildlife, not the existing plant life.
I think it is time the people of Cape Town took to the streets on this issue. Sometimes negotiations pay and sometimes you need to take action.
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Treebeard
 

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Posted - 07 Sep 2006 :  23:07:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh yes people not only are TMNParks going to remove 60% of Table Mountains shade trees they plan restrictions of movement by reducing the paths on the mountain along with the restrictions on other recreational activities. In short they plan to reduce the general population using the mountain in whatever way possible by making it less attractive. BUT there will be improvements for paying tourists. This is all being done to protect the Biodiversity of the region. A Park for all always ??????????????